I might adjust things a bit if there's any announcement in January.
3mo ending Dec-2010 Rev($M) EPS($) ------------------- ------- ------ Apple guidance 23,000 4.80 Analysts consensus 24,110 5.29 Deagol estimates 26,071 6.23
Here you'll find my latest AAPL estimates based on my financial model of Apple Inc's business. This should not be considered financial advice, do your own diligence, no guarantee from past performance, and all of that, etc. The idea is for you to figure out as much as you can, and when stuck on something just ask me. Enjoy!
3mo ending Dec-2010 Rev($M) EPS($) ------------------- ------- ------ Apple guidance 23,000 4.80 Analysts consensus 24,110 5.29 Deagol estimates 26,071 6.23
3mo ending Sep-2010 Rev($M) EPS($) ------------------- ------- ------ Apple guidance 18,000 3.44 Analysts consensus 18,610 3.99 Deagol estimates 20,562 4.73
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Rank Err% Analyst, Affiliation
---- ---- ----------------------------------------
1 1.93 Horace Dediu, Asymco
2 2.84 Alexis Cabot, Apple Finance Board
3 2.85 Yair Reiner, Oppenheimer
4 3.32 Daniel Tello, Deagol's AAPL Model
5 3.67 Richard Gardner, Citigroup
6 3.94 Andy Zaky, Bullish Cross
7 4.17 Jeff Fosberg, Apple Finance Board
8 4.21 Robert Paul Leitao, Apple Finance Board
9 4.39 Scott Craig, Merrill Lynch
10 4.45 Turley Muller, Financial Alchemist
11 4.48 Mike Abramsky, RBC Capital
12 4.83 Doug Reid, Stifel Nicholaus
13 4.96 Nehal Chokshi, Technology Insights
14 5.23 William Fearnley, Janney Capital
15 5.28 Chris Whitmore, Deutsche Bank
16 5.48 Jeff Fidacaro, Susquehanna
17 5.67 Vijay Rakesh, Sterne Agee
18 5.97 Brian Marshall, Gleacher & Co.
19 6.27 Ralph Schackart, William Blair
20 6.40 Toni Sacconaghi, Bernstein Research
21 6.45 Keith Bachman, BMO Capital
22 6.57 Kathryn Huberty, Morgan Stanley
23 6.65 Gene Munster, Piper Jaffray
24 6.89 Dennis Hildebrand, Apple's Gold
25 7.19 Shaw Wu, Kauffman Bros.
26 7.36 Tavis McCourt, Morgan Keegan
27 7.37 Nicolae Mihalache, Trader's Neighborhood
28 7.57 Mathew Hoffman, Cowen & Co.
29 7.78 Ben Reitzes, Barclay's Capital
30 7.99 Rajesh Ghai, Think Equity
31 8.07 Ashok Kumar, Rodman & Renshaw
32 8.77 Mark Moskowitz, J.P. Morgan
---- ---- ----------------------------------------
9.9 4.35 Bloggers
19.1 6.08 Professionals
---- ---- ----------------------------------------
40% Pros error increase % on bloggers
Products Est Act Err Err%
Units(K) ------ ------ ------ ------
Mac 3,338 3,472 - 134 - 3.9%
iPad 3,258 3,270 - 12 - 0.4%
iPhone 9,042 8,398 + 644 + 7.7%
iPod 10,124 9,406 + 718 + 7.6%
ASP($) ------ ------ ------ ------
Mac 1,236 1,267 - 31 - 2.5%
iPad 660 662 - 2 - 0.4%
iPhone 603 635 - 32 - 5.0%
iPod 163 164 - 1 - 0.5%
Revenue($M) ------ ------ ------ ------
Mac 4,125 4,399 - 274 - 6.2%
iPad 2,150 2,166 - 16 - 0.7%
iPhone 5,456 5,334 + 122 + 2.3%
iPod 1,655 1,545 + 110 + 7.1%
iTunes 1,258 1,214 + 44 + 3.6%
SW 641 646 - 5 - 0.8%
Periph 465 396 + 69 +17.4%
P&L($M) ------ ------ ------ ------
Revenue 15,750 15,700 + 50 + 0.3%
COGS 9,497 9,564 - 67 - 0.7%
GM 6,253 6,136 + 117 + 1.9%
OpEx 1,850 1,902 - 52 - 2.7%
OpInc 4,403 4,234 + 169 + 4.0%
OI&E 62 58 + 4 + 7.6%
Pre-tax 4,465 4,292 + 173 + 4.0%
Tax 1,161 1,039 + 122 +11.7%
NetInc 3,304 3,253 + 51 + 1.6%
Shrs. 925 927 - 2 - 0.3%
EPS($) 3.57 3.51 + 0.06 + 1.8%
Ratios ------ ------ ------ ------
GM% 39.7% 39.1% + 0.6% + 1.6%
OpInc% 28.0% 27.0% + 1.0% + 3.7%
Tax% 26.0% 24.2% + 1.8% + 7.4%
NetInc% 21.0% 20.7% + 0.3% + 1.3%
Guidance ------ ------ ------ ------
Rev($M) 16,450* 18,000 -1,550 - 8.6%
EPS($) 3.27* 3.44 - 0.17 - 4.9%
* These were my PO-LowBall™ guidance estimates for 4Q.
My real estimates were $18.3b in revenue and $4.46 in
EPS, obviously to get revised soon.
Analyst (ranked from most ----- z-scores ----
bearish to most bullish) Rev EPS Comb
-------------------------------------------- ----- ----- -----
1 Ben Reitzes, Barclay's Capital -1.31 -1.13 -1.22
2 Mathew Hoffman, Cowen & Co. -1.13 -1.09 -1.11
3 Tavis McCourt, Morgan Keegan -0.80 -1.28 -1.04
4 Keith Bachman, BMO Capital -1.31 -0.76 -1.04
5 Shaw Wu, Kauffman Bros. -1.31 -0.73 -1.02
6 Toni Sacconaghi, Bernstein Research -0.93 -0.91 -0.92
7 Doug Reid, Stifel Nicholaus -0.91 -0.80 -0.86
8 Kathryn Huberty, Morgan Stanley -0.58 -1.06 -0.82
9 Ralph Schackart, William Blair -0.64 -0.76 -0.70
10 Brian Marshall, Gleacher & Co. -1.13 -0.21 -0.67
11 Mark Moskowitz, J.P. Morgan -0.57 -0.69 -0.63
12 William Fearnley, Janney Capital -0.47 -0.54 -0.51
12.3 Professionals -0.42 -0.47 -0.45
13 Ashok Kumar, Rodman & Renshaw -0.04 -0.65 -0.35
14 Richard Gardner, Citigroup -0.04 -0.36 -0.20
15 Rajesh Ghai, Think Equity 0.29 -0.65 -0.18
16 Chris Whitmore, Deutsche Bank 0.07 -0.36 -0.15
17 Gene Munster, Piper Jaffray 0.87 -1.13 -0.13
18 Nehal Chokshi, Technology Insights 0.18 -0.43 -0.13
19 Mike Abramsky, RBC Capital 0.14 -0.36 -0.11
20 Vijay Rakesh, Sterne Agee -0.80 0.63 -0.08
21 Turley Muller, Financial Alchemist 0.05 0.19 0.12
22 Scott Craig, Merrill Lynch 0.00 0.45 0.22
23 Jeff Fidacaro, Susquehanna -0.24 1.26 0.51
24 Dennis Hildebrand, Apple's Gold -0.08 1.18 0.55
25 Yair Reiner, Oppenheimer 1.12 0.08 0.60
26 Andy Zaky, Bullish Cross 0.36 1.15 0.75
27 Alexis Cabot, Apple Finance Board 0.90 1.23 1.07
27.2 Bloggers 1.07 1.21 1.14
28 Daniel Tello, Deagol's AAPL Model 1.14 1.00 1.07
29 Horace Dediu, Asymco 0.73 1.55 1.14
30 Jeff Fosberg, Apple Finance Board 1.67 1.63 1.65
31 Robert Paul Leitao, Apple Finance Board 2.38 1.51 1.95
32 Nicolae Mihalache, Trader's Neighborhood 2.37 2.07 2.22
3mo ending Jun-2010 Rev($M) EPS($)
------------------- ------- ------
Apple guidance 13,200 2.34
Analysts consensus 14,604 3.05
Deagol estimates 15,750 3.57
3mo ending Sep-2010 Rev($M) EPS($)
------------------- ------- ------
Apple guide (est.) 16,450 3.27
Analysts consensus 16,453 3.69
Deagol estimates 18,271 4.46
12mo ending Sep-2011 Rev($M) EPS($)
-------------------- ------- ------
Analysts consensus 71,225 16.16
Deagol estimates 83,993 20.48
Valuation (12mo beginning on) EPS($) 25x 20x
----------------------------- ------ --- ---
Trailing (Jul-2009) 13.34 334 267
Fair value (Jul-2010) 19.05 476 381
1yr target (Jul-2011) 24.23 606 485
Revenue breakdown:
Mac 4,125 ( 3,338 @ $1,236)
iPad 2,150 ( 3,258 @ $ 660)
iPhone 5,456 ( 9,042 @ $ 603)
iPod 1,655 (10,124 @ $ 163)
iTunes 1,258
Software 641
Periph 465
Income statement:
Revenue 15,750
COGS 9,497
GM 6,253
OpEx 1,850
OpInc 4,403
OI&E 62
Pre-tax 4,465
Tax 1,161
NetInc 3,304
Shrs. 925
EPS 3.57
Ratios:
GM% 39.7%
OpInc% 28.0%
Tax% 26.0%
NetInc% 21.0%
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%Err Analyst, Affiliation
----- ---------------------------------------
5.9% Turley Muller, Financial Alchemist
7.2% Daniel Tello, Deagol's AAPL Model
7.2% Robert Paul Leitao, Apple Finance Board
7.3% Andy Zaky, Bullish Cross
8.2% Ashok Kumar, Rodman & Renshaw
8.7% Bill Shope, Credit Suisse
8.8% Patrick Smellie, Apple Finance Board
9.6% Alexis Cabot, Apple Finance Board
9.9% Yair Reiner, Oppenheimer
10.1% Mike Abramsky, RBC Capital
10.3% Ben Reitzes, Barclay's Capital
10.3% Jeff Fidacaro, Susquehanna Financial
10.6% Toni Sacconaghi, Bernstein Research
10.8% Peter Misek, Canaccord Adams
11.8% Mark Moskowitz, J.P. Morgan
11.9% Chris Whitmore, Deutsche Bank
11.9% Tavis McCourt, Morgan Keegan
12.1% Gene Munster, Piper Jaffray
12.3% Doug Reid, Thomas Weisel
12.3% Shaw Wu, Kauffman Bros.
13.3% Keith Bachman, BMO Capital
13.4% Scott Craig, Merrill Lynch
13.7% Brian Marshall, Broadpoint AmTech
14.1% Kathryn Huberty, Morgan Stanley
14.3% Richard Gardner, Citigroup
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11.6% Professionals
7.7% Amateurs
----- ---------------------------------------
51.4% Pros error increase % on amateurs
. Est Act Err Err%
. ------ ------ ------ ------
Units (K):
Mac 2,949 2,943 + 6 + 0.2%
iPhone 7,500 8,752 -1,252 -14.3%
iPod 10,400 10,885 - 485 - 4.5%
ASP ($):
Mac 1,320 1,278 + 42 + 3.3%
iPhone 635 622 + 13 + 2.1%
iPod 162 171 - 9 - 5.5%
Revenue breakdown ($M):
Mac 3,893 3,760 + 133 + 3.5%
iPhone 4,764 5,445 - 681 -12.5%
iPod 1,681 1,861 - 180 - 9.7%
Music 1,238 1,327 - 89 - 6.7%
Perph 412 472 - 60 -12.8%
SW 608 634 - 26 - 4.2%
Income statement ($M):
Revenue 12,594 13,499 - 905 - 6.7%
COGS 7,367 7,874 - 507 - 6.4%
GM 5,227 5,625 - 398 - 7.1%
OpEx 1,631 1,646 - 15 - 0.9%
OpInc 3,595 3,979 - 384 - 9.6%
OI&E 35 50 - 15 -29.8%
Pre-tax 3,631 4,029 - 398 - 9.9%
Tax 1,089 955 + 134 +14.1%
NetInc 2,541 3,074 - 533 -17.3%
Shrs. 918 923 - 5 - 0.5%
EPS 2.77 3.33 - 0.56 -16.9%
Ratios:
GM% 41.5% 41.7% - 0.2% - 0.4%
OpInc% 28.5% 29.5% - 0.9% - 3.1%
Tax% 30.0% 23.7% + 6.3% +26.6%
NetInc% 20.2% 22.8% - 2.6% -11.4%
3mo ending Jun-2010 Rev($M) EPS($)
------------------- ------- ------
Apple guidance (e) 13.200 2.40
Analysts consensus 12,913 2.63
Deagol estimates 14,675 3.21
3mo ending Mar-2010 Rev($M) EPS($)
------------------- ------- ------
Apple guidance 11,200 2.12
Analysts consensus 11,960 2.44
Deagol estimates 12,594 2.77
3mo ending Jun-2010 Rev($M) EPS($)
------------------- ------- ------
Apple guidance (e) 13.200 2.40
Analysts consensus 12,913 2.63
Deagol estimates 14,675 3.21
12mo ending Sep-2010 Rev($M) EPS($)
-------------------- ------- ------
Analysts consensus 55,091 12.01
Deagol estimates 59,721 13.66
Valuation (12mo beginning on) EPS(e) PPS(25x)
----------------------------- ------ --------
Trailing (Apr-2009) 11.22 281
Fair value (Apr-2010) 15.72 393
1yr target (Apr-2011) 19.82 495
PED:
How many iPhones did Apple sell?
How many Macs did Apple sell?
How many iPods did Apple sell?
How big was Apple's second quarter?
Revenue breakdown:
Mac 3,893 ( 2.95M @ $1,320)
iPhone 4,764 ( 7.50M @ $ 635)
iPod 1,681 (10.40M @ $ 162)
Music 1,238
Software 608
Periph 412
-------- ------
Total 12,594
Income statement:
Revenue 12,594
COGS 7,367
GM 5,227
OpEx 1,631
OpInc 3,595
OI&E 35
Pre-tax 3,631
Tax 1,089
NetInc 2,541
Shrs. 918
EPS 2.77
Ratios:
GM% 41.5%
OpInc% 28.5%
Tax% 30.0%
NetInc% 20.2%
Site ttmEPS P/E Fncls Ests
----------- ------ ---- ----- ----
Forbes $ 8.17 28.9 Wrong N/A
CNN Money N/A 28.9 Wrong Ok (incorrect expectations history)
SmartMoney $ 8.17 28.9 Wrong Ok
Nasdaq $ 8.17 28.9 Wrong Ok
Zacks $ 8.17 28.9 Wrong Ok
Yahoo! $10.27 23.0 N/AN/AOk! (fixed as of 4/15, 11 weeks later!)
CNBC $10.25 23.0 Wrong Ok
FOXBusiness $10.25 22.7 Wrong Ok
MarketWatch $10.25 23.0 Wrong Ok
Google $10.25 23.0 Ok N/A
Reuters $37.33? 23.0 Ok Ok (missing March quarter!?)
MSN Money $10.25 23.0 Ok Ok
Scottrade $10.25 23.0 Ok Ok
Fidelity $10.24 23.0 Ok Ok
Ameritrade $10.25 23.0 Ok Ok (excellent tool!)
ft.com $10.25 23.6 Ok Ok
Updates:Yahoo! data still a mess. See http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ae?s=AAPLLet them hear it using this form (make reference to ticket number 3385526).
It's beenthree four six seven!weeks since the report and yahoo's still a mess. Anyone, how do we fix this:Well, it took them seven weeks, but they finally did it!And they f'd it up again! Amazing. Eight weeks now.And now it's good again, hopefully for more than two days. Two months to fix this...And it's bad again. More than 9 weeks. Got tired of updating so here's a day counter for this.Fixed! Good job, Yahoo! Finance, despite the 11 weeks your users were in the dark. Unfortunately, some who might have wanted to jump in at $190 are now looking at $247. Not to worry Yahooers, it's still going to double in a year or two.
. Est(*) Act Err Err%
. -------- ----- ---- ------
Units (K):
Mac 3184 3362 -178 - 5.3%
iPhone 8650 8737 - 87 - 1.0%
iPod 20500 20970 -470 - 2.2%
ASP ($):
Mac 1354 1324 + 31 + 2.3%
iPhone 619(1) 638 - 20 - 3.1%
iPod 155 162 - 7 - 4.4%
Revenue breakdown ($M):
Mac 4312 4450 -138 - 3.1%
iPhone 5351(*) 5578 -227 - 4.1%
iPod 3170 3391 -221 - 6.5%
Music 1177 1164 + 13 + 1.1%
Perph 404(2) 469 - 65 -13.9%
SW 604 631 - 27 - 4.3%
Income statement ($M):
Revenue 15017(*) 15683 -666 - 4.2%
COGS 8657(3) 9272 -615 - 6.6%
GM 6360(*) 6411 - 51 - 0.8%
OpEx 1625 1686 - 61 - 3.6%
OpInc 4734(*) 4725 + 9 + 0.2%
OI&E 55 33 + 22 +67.8%
Pre-tax 4790(*) 4758 + 32 + 0.7%
Tax 1365(*) 1380 - 15 - 1.1%
NetInc 3425(*) 3378 + 47 + 1.4%
Shrs. 915 920 - 5 - 0.5%
EPS 3.74(*) 3.67 +.07 + 1.9%
Ratios:
GM% 42.4% 40.9% +1.5% + 3.6%
OpInc% 31.5% 30.1% +1.4% + 4.6%
Tax% 28.5% 29.0% -0.5% - 1.7%
NetInc% 22.8% 21.5% +1.3% + 5.9%
3mo ending Dec-2009 Revenue($B) EPS($)
. ------------- ------------
F1Q10 GAAP n-GAAP GAAP n-GAAP
------------------ ----- ------ ---- ------
Apple guidance 11.45 N/A 1.74 N/A
Analysts consensus 12.01 ? 2.05 ?
Deagol estimates 12.47 15.02 2.35 3.74
3mo ending Mar-2010 Revenue($B) EPS($)
. ------------- ------------
F2Q10 GAAP n-GAAP GAAP n-GAAP
------------------ ----- ------ ---- ------
Analysts consensus 10.33 ? 1.75 ?
Deagol estimates 10.69 11.34 1.94 2.29
Apple guidance (e) 10.15 10.90 1.51 1.85
12mo ending Sep-2010 Revenue($B) EPS($)
. ------------- ------------
FY10 GAAP n-GAAP GAAP n-GAAP
------------------ ----- ------ ---- ------
Analysts consensus 45.05 ? 7.85 ?
Deagol estimates 46.67 51.50 8.63 11.18
Stock valuation: EPS(e) PPS(25x)
. ------------ ------------
Window 12mo starting GAAP n-GAAP GAAP n-GAAP
------ ------------- ---- ------ ---- ------
Trailing Apr-09 7.46 11.29 187 282
Fair value Apr-10 9.70 11.66 243 292
1-year target Jan-11 11.53 13.42 288 335
Revenue breakdown:
Mac 4,312 ( 3.184M @ $1,354)
iPhone 2,815 ( 8.650M @ $ 590)
iPod 3,170 (20.500M @ $ 155)
Music 1,177
Software 604
Periph 392
-------- ------
Total 12,469
Income statement:
Revenue 12,469
COGS 7,893
GM 4,576
OpEx 1,625
OpInc 2,951
OI&E 55
Pre-tax 3,006
Tax 857
NetInc 2,149
Shrs. 915
EPS 2.35
Ratios:
GM% 36.7%
OpInc% 23.7%
Tax% 28.5%
NetInc% 17.2%